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Sundown Audio SA-8M v4 - Midbass SetThe all new 2025 Sundown SA speaker series has been designed to make a statement. What statement, you may ask? That Sundown Audio can be just as serious about SQ as we are about SPL. Many people already know this but our subwoofers even the ones used for crushing demos have some of the lowest distortion on the market. We are now bringing our unique approach to the more dedicated Sound Quality market. Starting at the upper end of the frequency spectrum
The all-new 2025 Sundown SA speaker series has been designed to make a statement. What statement, you may ask? That Sundown Audio can be just as serious about SQ as we are about SPL. Many people already know this but our subwoofers – even the ones used for crushing demos – have some of the lowest distortion on the market. We are now bringing our unique approach to the more dedicated Sound Quality market.
Starting at the upper end of the frequency spectrum we have the SA-1T Tweeter. The SA-1T features a 25.5mm silk dome (total 38mm including surround) driven by a powerful neodymium motor structure. The dome features a compact, tuned back chamber which helps it to achieve its extremely low FS around 700hz. This gives you an enormous amount of flexibility in choosing the crossover. The tweeter can be used as a 2-way with the 6.5M or the 8M models or as part of a three way with either and the 3M model. In addition to the low FS and smooth response the SA-1T has a very high 92dB sensitivity so it doesn't take much power to get loud enough for just about anyone. The SA-1T is the 4th generation SA tweeter building on the success of the tweeter found in the SA Component sets over three generations.
Headed down the spectrum to the midrange we have the SA-3M. This "little" unit is something incredibly special and is a favorite project of lead product designer / founder Jacob Fuller. We really went all-out on this unit to address the "big 3" drivers of distortion. The SA-3M features 4.5mm of one-way linear excursion by 70% BL (with 8mm x-mech thanks to the custom tooled frame – so no bottoming out even on powerful dynamics) and over 6mm by CMS and LE definitions on Klippel. There is essentially NO risk of the driver reaching linearity limits in most applications. The beefy motor structure is a combination of ferrite and a neodymium pole cap magnet to help us reach 84.5dB sensitivity at 1-watt. There is a double LE treatment internal to the motor via both a copper pole sleeve and an aluminum magnet ID shorting ring allowing the SA-3M to play full-range to beyond 20khz (although, for several reasons, we do suggest using a tweeter for the top-end). On the bottom end they can be high-pass crossed over at 300hz effortlessly with 150-watts of power handling (thanks to the 28mm diameter, extra-long voice coil) or even lower if needed, with less power, due to the incredibly high linear stroke. The suspension system, surround and spider, of the SA-3M took over a year of FEA simulations and testing to reach perfection and is just as important as the motor to the resulting low distortion. We gave the suspension just as much attention as we would for a full blown high-stroke subwoofer. To finish off this masterpiece we tested several different types of woven carbon fiber cones & dust caps to achieve the best FR possible.
To finish off the 2025 SA speaker line we created the SA-6.5M and the SA-8M. Both of which can be used as a mid-bass or mid-range speaker depending on your application. Both drivers feature the same attention to detail as the 3M regarding the carbon cone and dust cap, surround, and spider. All of these parts were fully FEA simulated and Klippel verified.
The SA-6.5M features 5.9mm one-way linear excursion by 70% BL, 7mm by CMS, and 6.28mm by LE on Klippel. Thanks to the efficient motor venting and ample voice coil the power handling is rated for 110-watts full range / 200-watts with a 70hz HPF filter with a respectable 89dB sensitivity. As with the SA-1T this is a 4th generation SA speaker due to the SA component set from prior generations. For this iteration we optimized it further and also created a new custom-tooled frame. The revised frame is more aerodynamics and also allows for superior coil ventilation. As with most Sundown products you will find a thick magnet-ID Faraday ring as well.
Starting at the upper end of the frequency spectrum we have the SA-1T Tweeter. The SA-1T features a 25.5mm silk dome (total 38mm including surround) driven by a powerful neodymium motor structure. The dome features a compact, tuned back chamber which helps it to achieve its extremely low FS around 700hz. This gives you an enormous amount of flexibility in choosing the crossover. The tweeter can be used as a 2-way with the 6.5M or the 8M models or as part of a three way with either and the 3M model. In addition to the low FS and smooth response the SA-1T has a very high 92dB sensitivity so it doesn't take much power to get loud enough for just about anyone. The SA-1T is the 4th generation SA tweeter building on the success of the tweeter found in the SA Component sets over three generations.
Headed down the spectrum to the midrange we have the SA-3M. This "little" unit is something incredibly special and is a favorite project of lead product designer / founder Jacob Fuller. We really went all-out on this unit to address the "big 3" drivers of distortion. The SA-3M features 4.5mm of one-way linear excursion by 70% BL (with 8mm x-mech thanks to the custom tooled frame – so no bottoming out even on powerful dynamics) and over 6mm by CMS and LE definitions on Klippel. There is essentially NO risk of the driver reaching linearity limits in most applications. The beefy motor structure is a combination of ferrite and a neodymium pole cap magnet to help us reach 84.5dB sensitivity at 1-watt. There is a double LE treatment internal to the motor via both a copper pole sleeve and an aluminum magnet ID shorting ring allowing the SA-3M to play full-range to beyond 20khz (although, for several reasons, we do suggest using a tweeter for the top-end). On the bottom end they can be high-pass crossed over at 300hz effortlessly with 150-watts of power handling (thanks to the 28mm diameter, extra-long voice coil) or even lower if needed, with less power, due to the incredibly high linear stroke. The suspension system, surround and spider, of the SA-3M took over a year of FEA simulations and testing to reach perfection and is just as important as the motor to the resulting low distortion. We gave the suspension just as much attention as we would for a full blown high-stroke subwoofer. To finish off this masterpiece we tested several different types of woven carbon fiber cones & dust caps to achieve the best FR possible.
To finish off the 2025 SA speaker line we created the SA-6.5M and the SA-8M. Both of which can be used as a mid-bass or mid-range speaker depending on your application. Both drivers feature the same attention to detail as the 3M regarding the carbon cone and dust cap, surround, and spider. All of these parts were fully FEA simulated and Klippel verified.
The SA-6.5M features 5.9mm one-way linear excursion by 70% BL, 7mm by CMS, and 6.28mm by LE on Klippel. Thanks to the efficient motor venting and ample voice coil the power handling is rated for 110-watts full range / 200-watts with a 70hz HPF filter with a respectable 89dB sensitivity. As with the SA-1T this is a 4th generation SA speaker due to the SA component set from prior generations. For this iteration we optimized it further and also created a new custom-tooled frame. The revised frame is more aerodynamics and also allows for superior coil ventilation. As with most Sundown products you will find a thick magnet-ID Faraday ring as well.
Last, but absolutely not least, we have the SA-8M which takes linear stroke to yet another level. We were able to achieve 9mm one-way linear by 70% BL and nearly 10mm by CMS and LE standards. As with the 3M, the 8M features a pole sleeve and magnet ID faraday ring for LE treatment. This unit is an absolute powerhouse for mid-bass, and we believe it will make big waves in the SQ world. On the output side it has a 91.5dB sensitivity and will handle 130-watts full-range / 250-watts with a 70Hz HPF thanks to the efficient motor venting and huge 2" coil. The SA-8M is all-in on SQ and output potential – the Sundown way!
| Impedance | 4 ohm |
| RMS Watts | 130 |
| Max Watts | 250 |
| Max Frequency | 20Khz |
| Min Frequency | 70hz |
| Xmax | 9mm |
| QES | 0.334 |
| VAS | 21.892 |
| QMS | 6.696 |
| QTS | 0.318 |
| RE | 3.2 |
| Outer Diameter | 8.26 |
| Cutout Diameter | 7.28 |
| Mounting Depth | 3.4 |
| Magnet Material | Ferrite |
| Surround Material | Rubber |
| Basket Material | Aluminum |
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★★★★★ 5
Apple Pencil Pro… definitely an upgrade from the original Pencil and Pencil 2!
Purchased as an open‑box, like‑new item, and it arrived exactly as described. The box was opened but taped closed and the wrapper was still on the pencil. It didn’t have any charge out of the box, but as soon as I snapped it onto the side of my iPad, it synced instantly and worked right away. I charged it fully that first night and have been using it normally ever since.
I’m using it with my 13” iPad Air M2, and it’s great. The double‑tap on the barrel to bring up the menu is super convenient, and everything works flawlessly. Zero issues so far. For basically half the price of a brand‑new one, this feels like an excellent buy and absolutely worth what I paid. Apple hardware is built well, the white looks nice and clean… I have no worries about longevity at all. Excellent product from Apple as usual.
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Reviewed in the United States on May 4, 2026
★★★★★ 5
Super easy to set up and start drawing
I was honestly shocked at how easy it was to connect it to my iPad. Opened the box and was expecting to see more inside of it, decided to see what happens when I put it up to my iPad and it connected instantly. Works great with my iPad m2 with touch sensitivity and spiral twist stuff in procreate. Really happy to not have to plug it in to charge. I’m planning to use this daily, so I needed to make sure it would actually feel good to hold in my hand and oh baby let me tell you, it does. It’s really smooth drawing wise, using it is intuitive. Fits on the iPad snug. I’d say give it a shot
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Reviewed in the United States on April 3, 2026
★★★★★ 4
It works, but there’s some improvement needed.
The Apple Pencil Pro is easy to write with, not heavy like the other reviews made it seem, very nice and simple design, great battery life, great pressure sensitivity, and the squeeze feature and wireless charging is a nice touch. Theres one issue though, I’m an artist and student and I do a lot of work on my iPad. The pencil (or my iPad) glitches and randomly and switches me over to the eraser tool in the middle of me writing/drawing even when I turned the squeeze feature off.
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Reviewed in the United States on February 6, 2026
★★★★★ 5
Great laptop
Style: 256GB | Magic Keyboard, Color: Silver, Set: Without AppleCare+
The Neo has quickly become one of my favorite pieces of tech, and a big part of that comes down to two things Apple consistently gets right: MacOS and build quality.
This is my first MacOS product and it is a joy to use. Everything feels smooth, intuitive, and thoughtfully designed. From the seamless integration with other Apple devices to the clean interface and reliable performance, it just works in a way that lets me focus on what I’m doing instead of fighting with the system.
Then there’s the build quality, which is honestly second to none. The Neo feels incredibly solid the moment you pick it up. The aluminum chassis is sleek yet durable, with no flex or creaking, and the attention to detail is obvious in everything from the hinge to the keyboard. It has that premium feel that makes it clear you’re using a quality device. The trackpad is large and precise, easily the best I’ve used on any laptop, and the keyboard strikes a great balance between comfort and responsiveness.
Overall, the Neo delivers a polished experience that’s hard to beat. Between the reliability and elegance of MacOS and the exceptional build quality, it’s a laptop that feels worth the investment.
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Reviewed in the United States on April 9, 2026
★★★★★ 5
Impressive web PC, first time mac user, massive upgrade over a 4 year old Lenovo Yoga 13
Style: 256GB | Magic Keyboard, Color: Citrus, Set: Without AppleCare+
The neo is really impressive for $600. It has a nice screen, an incredibly rigid aluminum chassis, loads web pages and videos super fast, boots quick. Impressive Bluetooth and WiFi range and performance (Bluetooth is so much better then my old laptop), good speakers(for a laptop), good battery life, a decent keyboard, excellent trackpad, decent web cam, looks nice, low heat output and no vents to get blocked, compact and light. Highly recommended for anyone shopping for a compact web machine.
The only negatives on the hardware are: lack of keyboard backlight, the interior edge of the chassis is sharp, not enough to cut you, but enough to be annoying when typing in some positions, not many ports just a normal USB C and a 2.0 speed USB C (both can be used for charging) and screen does not fold flat, so the laptop cannot be stood up against the wall.
I was a bit unsure about the Neo because of it using a cellphone chip, but that was not a problem at all. The Neo is super snappy, as fast as my Workstation/Gaming PC when loading web pages and videos. Also I have not noticed any issues with the amount of RAM, 8GB seems sufficient for running a web browser, just as long as you do not go crazy on tabs in Chrome or if you use Firefox that actually manages tabs properly. As a web browser machine I doubt that this will have any performance issues. I am sure that you would hit limits of the mobile CPU if you do did something serious like video editing, but it is more then enough for more casual use.
As someone who had never used a mac before I was a bit apprehensive about trying a different OS, but really it has been fine. I mostly just use my laptop to run a web browser, so I do not interact with the OS that much and MacOS is really pretty nice in many ways. The hardest thing to get used to will be the copy paste shortcuts using command instead of ctrl. Mostly MacOS functions about the same as windows, just better. You can just shut the lid on the Neo and it actually shuts off without hardly using any battery and instantly resumes when you open it again. When you do shut it down boot time is super fast. Mac's update system is pretty unobtrusive and just not stupid like windows update. Mac wants you to sign up to all of their AI and cloud stuff, but you do not have to. I did not even setup the app store. The only apps that I wanted were Firefox and a system wide EQ for my earbuds. I found eqMac on gethub, the free version works pretty well. Anyway don't let the different OS scare you away, MacOS is pretty decent and not really that much different then windows. I got used to it in 2 days of use. Also it should get 7 years of software support.
Here is a comparison of the Neo with the 4 year old Lenovo Yoga 13 it is replacing. The Lenovo was $550 when new so a very similar price category from 4 years ago. Not sure if this will be useful to anyone so I am putting this at the end, but I figure that a lot of people will be in the same situation switching from a budget windows machine from a few years ago, Overall the Neo is better in almost every way, except for the screen not being able to fold around like the yoga and the lack of a backlit keyboard.
The Neo is much faster, it way outperforms the AMD 4650u in my old lenovo when it comes to loading web pages and videos. My old laptop had started really chugging lately when loading YouTube and twitch videos. Not sure it there is something wrong my old laptop it or if web sites have just gotten that much harder to run.
My old lenovo Yoga 13 has an absurd amount of flex in the plastic chassis, when you pick up one corner of the device the other edge sags visibly, the keyboard flexes noticeably when typing, the entire chassis will twist with very little effort. The chassis has also cracked in several places and I have been having to superglue it back together to keep the chassis from literally falling apart. The Neo on the other hand is completely rigid you can lift it anywhere, no flex in the keyboard, you would have to really try to do anything to this thing, it is amazing for a laptop of any price, much less a $600 one. Unless you really do something terrible to it I expect the Neo chassis to last well beond the lifetime of the hardware.
The battery life on the neo is great, I would say it is about twice that of the lenovo, even though I just put a new battery in my lenovo 6 months ago.
The Bluetooth range on the Neo is at least 2 times better, my earbuds would loose connection to the lenovo if I walked 20 feet away to go to the bathroom. I can walk anywhere in the house and stay connected to the Neo, range of about 40+ feet in the house and about 80+ feet outside. Not only the range is better but also Bluetooth connects faster and just works kind of flawlessly, while in windows I constantly had odd Bluetooth issues. This is with just some basic $30 Anker Bluetooth earbuds.
WiFI range and throughput is also much better then my old laptop
The yogo 13 had a good screen, so I do not find the screen of the Neo a huge upgrade, it is noticeably more vibrant and it is higher res, although I found 1980x1080 to be fine at this size. Also the Yoga 13 screen could fold all of the way back and around into any position you want and it was touchscreen, so some improvements and some downsides. Still the color on the Neo screen is very nice.
The speakers in the Neo are many times better then the the Lenovo, my old Pixel phone even easily outdid the Lenovo, it had impressively bad speakers.
The webcam on the Neo is also a big upgrade over the Lenovo, higher res and just better all around.
The Neo has a macbook keyboard, so generally it is a very good laptop keyboard. It is not my favorite type of keyboard, but it works quite well and is fast to type.
The trackpad is great, it is so much better then any windows computer trackpad that I have used, it functions a bit different so it takes a bit of getting used to, but it is just so much better then windows trackpads.
As the Neo uses a cellphone chip it does not really need any cooling, so there are no vents and the chassis never gets hot or even warm. My old lenovo would get uncomfortably hot when charging and I had to be careful not to block the vents when using it on a bed or blanket, but that is not a problem with the Neo. There are no vents to block.
Overall this thing is just impressive for $600 and I just do not see any windows laptop coming close to competing for a thin and light web machine. Sure if you want something that can game or do more intensive work stuff, but I just wanted something to run a web browser and this does that incredibly well while also being a beautifully well made device.
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Reviewed in the United States on March 29, 2026